Thursday February 27, 2003

~ Morals & Ethics ~

What is good? What is evil? What is right? What is wrong?

— A world without God —

When I was in high school, before I knew God, before I knew about Jesus, This is how I thought… There is no such thing as “right”. How can there be such a thing?
     Think about it, we have what humanitarians call “right”, the rich should give to the poor because the rich have more than enough, and the poor need support. So what about those who worked hard for their riches, don’t they deserve to enjoy what they have worked for? So therefore is pleasure and enjoyment wrong? hmm… the conclusion then seems to be: the harder you work and more money you have, the more support you should give to the poor. I’d rather be a lazy bum… don’t work and get support.
     How about communism? It says that commercialism is evil. Workers should get paid for the work they do, and in commercialism, the worker’s pay must be less than the value of the product. And everyone should be on the same level, hmm… sounds good. Has any country ever reached the third and final stage of communism where everyone is a worker and there is no longer any proletariates? (yes, my spelling sux…) Nope… dictatorships and/or totalitarian rule… but no country has yet to get that particular system to work… beautiful specification, but no real world implementation of the system yet… scratch that one off as too idealistic…
     So then why don’t we do the easiest system. Right and wrong based upon me. So whatever is bad for me is “wrong” and whatever is good for me is “right”. Screw the poor, forget about the government, whoever cares about other people is stupid. Just look out for #1. Follow the laws as long as it is in your best interests… in other words, don’t break the law when the cops are around… If you think about life that way, love becomes nothing more than a four-letter word. There is no difference between lust and love. Self-sacrifice is stupidity; kindness and caring are just a waste of time (unless it gets you something, like sex…) One-night stands make a lot of sense in this context… you just want sex, no strings attached. Some people can live like this, I am not one of them. I care too much, even when I say I don’t, even when I have repressed my emotions and feelings beyond recognition, I know that deep inside, this is not the way to live.
     Buddism. Now here is something interesting… I must give up all desires… because desires cause suffering. The way to nirvana is by meditation. To desire nothing, when you have reached this stage, you will become one with the world. Because in fact, this world is just an illusion, there is no self. So what happens when you meditate upon a desire you wish to be rid of day and night, and devote yourself to ridding yourself of desires, but you cannot do so? What do you do then? Suicide will get you nowhere, you’ll just get reborn. Whether or not God exists is irrelevant. But these are the words of a man, no more, no less. He never claimed to be God, never wished to be worshipped. Just stop all your desires by living your life the “middle way” and become one with the world. The piece of logic that throws me is this… If you desire to desire nothing, isn’t the desire to desire nothing, itself a desire? How then does one get rid of that desire? (If I have misrepresented the ideas of buddism, I am sorry and would like someone to correct me. seriously.)

— My world with God —

     God is good. Would someone like God command you to do evil? Exactly… ^_^ So then, what is evil? If someone tells you a good thing to do and you choose another route, what would you be doing? Yup… I think that’s pretty simple. As always, it’s alot easier to say than to do. So let me quote from my little instruction book… ^_^
    
     One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
     Jesus replied: ” ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

— Matthew 22:35-40 —

    
Father God, thank you for your guidance. Thank you for all these brothers and sisters who raise me up during times of trouble and turmoil. My cup overflows, Lord. I am blessed indeed. I pray all this in the name he who died for us, Amen.

Edit: Utter grossness, so much so I could not help but share…
(Warning: Do not read while eating or drinking!!!) 
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~serey/gross.html
This link provided courtesy of imrealsleepy

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10 Responses to Thursday February 27, 2003

  1. tinuviel says:

    ::sigh::

    your posts make me happy.

    yay for God.

    p.s. red bull is some crazy stuff. i wouldn’t drink it just by itself…and even if i *did* drink alcohol (and i don’t) there is no way in heck i would mix them.

    actually, it amazes me that red bull is still legal…

  2. Vegito4 says:

    RYN: Oh … I’ll definitely score high in those questions. I enjoy reading book of self-improvement/refinement.  Also, I enjoy helping people out… Anything related to moral value, I know I already have a high score.  As for finding that one person with the same goal and interest… That’s is someone I’m still looking for.  If they don’t have the same goal or interest… I don’t even want to bother jumping in the relationship, because I already know that it is not going to work out.  No point in hurting yourself or others my making them fall for you, or you to them.

    It’s hard to find someone with the same goal and interest… love builds from there easily…

  3. Vegito4 says:

    If you desire nothing, you do not have a desire. It is like multiplication… any number multiplied by 0 (nothing) is 0 (nothing). Well, in theory, Buddhism says that desire causes suffering due to expectation. If you do not desire a thing, you do not expect anything. “If someone tells you a good thing to do and you choose another route, what would you be doing?” You can also take another good route; there are many good routes. It depends on the deeds… even if the deed is intended to be good but cause problem as a result; it is still a good deed. People should understand…

    I see that you’ve been thinking a lot which is good… ^_^

  4. Vegito4 says:

    For me, a girl that is open-minded can open up to many interests. Goal is harder to explain… It’s more of a preference for each individuals: their life style, important of a new family while including the old, kids in the future (some ppl don’t want kids), and so forth.
    Yes, goal and interest changes… but the think that you are passionate about won’t change… I already have some of the things that I’m passionate about.  The life partner should accept that.
    I categorize “Needs” as what is essential in life: food, water, clothing, shelter, etc. “Desire” are things you can live without, but only acquires though material things, comforts (technology for ease of doing things), etc… “Desires” are things that are essential to keep us alive. There is already a set of category for “Needs,” everything other than that is “Desire.”
    “So someone with the best of intentions who ends up killing someone is still doing good? Somehow, I’m not sure that is what you meant…” Yes, that is what I meant. We are only human, accident can happen… even if it is a good intention… it is the intention that divide us from the good and bad. It is rare that good intention turn to bad result, but it does happen.
    Oh! I wasn’t talking about Buddhism when I mention “Good deed”. I was making comment on your question: “If someone tells you a good thing to do and you choose another route, what would you be doing?” It doesn’t matter which path you take, as long as your intention is good, because there are multiple ways to perform a good deed.

  5. Vegito4 says:

    Oops… “Desires” are things that are NOT essential to keep us alive.

  6. ChaSeiwBow says:

    Right and wrong, eh? I find that love defines that, not whether something is right or not, more inclined to think whether something is done lovingly or not. Buddhism is something done out of love for oneself, right? But, that wouldn’t be love, love must be given away. There r some issues in Buddhism.

    P.S. that’s a pretty gross link >_< =P

  7. iheartsarah says:

    In all honesty..i didnt’ really read anything on this page..i apologize..
    But..i wanted to thank you for such a great question…haha!

    nah..i posted on it though….

    Keith
    I serve a real life God

  8. woah powerful stuff you got here. I like.  Esp. with about Buddhism.  The desire to desire nothing, is a desire in itself.  Indeed.  How do one go about desiring nothing?  If there is no desire, then there is no compassion, suffering brings forth compassion.  What Buddha said about not desiring causes suffering due to false expectations…does he really think one can achieve that level and be enlighten?  Impossible. 
    oh, that link…i’m too chicken to check, i will check it in the morning, i’m about to go to sleep soon and don’t want to have nightmares.

  9. vinztc says:

    Interesting and powerful… hey you forgot to give me some e-props….hehhhehe enjoy your weekend..

  10. HeavenlyLove says:

    sorry I accidentally use my friends screen name to comments on your page… interesting and powerful is what I say hehehhee… alrighty.. have a nice weekend again.hheheh

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